“I think it’s easy and generalising it to say that they’re lovers, when you’re forgetting that one has a lot of guilt because he swore to be the protector of the other, the father figure or older brother so to speak, and then left him behind.” Adds the actor: “I have no qualms with it but I think people like to see it much more as a love story than it actually is. It’s brotherhood to me.”
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,Sebastian Stan on Steve and Bucky’s relationship, “Captain America: Civil War is a love story” Empire Magazine (March 22, 2016) [source] (via youneedtostrut)
Here’s the thing, though: It’s not like Seb is wrong. It’s hard as hell to tell a platonic love story that’s believable and emotional and intense and has resonance, especially if it’s between two men. It would make things a lot easier if Steve & Bucky were lovers, because you’d have that physicality as a shortcut.
And it’s not like the comics have ever shied away from the fact that Bucky and Steve are soulmates and love each other more than anyone else. Just because they’re not having sex doesn’t somehow lessen that bond.
And yeah, I get the frustration a lot of fans have because we would all love more bi and gay representation in mainstream media, but the Russos and Markus/McFeely and Ed Brubaker and Chris and Seb aren’t pandering or backtracking or doing any sort of mental gymnastics when they say, yes, this is a love story and ALSO say, no, they also don’t think that love story is sexual.
A love story is still a love story, no matter whether or not the two main characters kiss at the end. Pacific Rim and Mad Max: Fury Road are two perfect examples of this. And even as someone who ships the hell out of Steve & Bucky, I don’t mind that a lot of the creative minds see it as platonic. It takes nothing away from my enjoyment of the pairing.
This is an excellent response to that quote. Steve and Bucky have a very close bond, they are loving and devoted to each other. That they aren’t lovers doesn’t detract from that at all. If anything, I find it more refreshing and impressive than most films that seem to need to make the main character’s most prominent bond romantic in order to give it depth.
In all the decades that Steve and Bucky have been written in the comics, they’ve never been lovers and they arguably have the strongest bond of any characters. Look at everything their bond has survived and it has never wavered.
I’d also like to add that Stan referred to Steve and Bucky as being like brothers during interviews for CA:TFA. This isn’t something he suddenly sprung on the fans. Its been his view of them in the MCU from the beginning.
I and some colleagues were talking about how we wish everyone could see the safety videos that our company was showing us, because I don’t think most people understand how traffic works in a truck. So here’s some things we wish everyone on the road knew.
- we’re not kidding about tailgating. If you’re right behind us on a straight highway? Chances are we have NO IDEA you’re there, which means we can’t anticipate any of your movements. Plus slowing down takes multiple downshifts, so we might start decreasing speed way earlier than you expect.
- We’re not kidding about any of our blind spots. WE CAN’T SEE YOU, GUYS.
- That bit about slowing down taking a while? The same goes for when you’re in front of us. Don’t cut off a truck. Oh god, PLEASE don’t cut off a truck. If you cut me off, I’m not irritated, I’m terrified. For YOU. It can take 7 to 9 seconds for us to stop. DON’T CUT OFF TRUCKS.
- Before you get mad about how slow we’re going on the highway, keep in mind that many companies govern their vehicles so they literally CAN’T go over 60 or 65. This is a good thing, I promise. Because…
- Do you know what happens when a car meets a truck in an accident? The car gets totaled and the truck needs a new coat of paint. You will not win this fight. I know nobody likes getting stuck behind a big dumb truck, but it’s not worth your life.
We are trying our best to protect you from our 80,000 pound death machines. Please help us out.
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Tip from my mom: if you’re behind a truck, stay far enough away that you can see BOTH of their side mirrors. Else wise assume they can’t see you.
Do you know what I really like about Sterling? Another show, another time, and he’d be the protagonist. I mean he’s often not wrong, he’s incredibly clever, he’s pretty much the prototypical white dude who is cranky but somehow has a heart of gold. The reason he such a great antagonist for the team is that he can genuinely almost outthink them, genuinely almost beat them. And he’s alone on his own. It’s not just that he can outthink Nate sometimes, its that he’s prepared to deal with all five of them and again, in another show he would win.
I can almost hear his fourth wall breaking frustration most of the time. “I’m supposed to be the good guy! I work hard, I follow the law, sure sometimes I bend it but it’s always in the service of greater justice.” He is exactly the protagonist in every extraordinary white dude crime show on TV today. And yet because he stumbled into this weird, amazing, found family criminals as good guys story, it turns out he has to somewhat lose at every turn. Not enough to put him in real danger. Not enough to make him actually fail. Just enough that I think it’s clear to him somewhere in the recesses of his brain, that he’s not the protagonist of the show. And it drives him absolutely bonkers.
a bald eagle, the symbol of what america stands for, attacks donald trump when he barely even gets near it and a sparrow, a bird used as representation for hope/peace/etc. throughout all types of artforms, lands on bernie sanders’ podium and stays for nearly half a minute
this is literally character development for the protagonist and antagonist in a children’s fairy tale movie, it’s unbelievable
american politics is a dreamworks movie and bernie does the eyebrows face on the poster
So I’m on AO3 and I see a lot of people who put “I do not own [insert fandom here]” before their story.
Like, I came on this site to read FAN fiction. This is a FAN fiction site. I’m fully aware that you don’t own the fandom or the characters. That’s why it’s called FAN FICTION.
Oh you youngins… How quickly they forget.
Back in the day, before fan fiction was mainstream and even encouraged by creators… This was your “please don’t sue me, I’m poor and just here for a good time” plea.
Cause guess what? That shit used to happen.
yep I did that. Everyone did. It’s honestly quite liberating to not have to put that disclaimer on your story.
I believe some sites, including fanfiction.net, used to actively require it on every story.
….god, one ages fast in fandom.
Yes ff.net REQUIRED it as did LJ in early 2001-2002 and people lost some fantastic stories because of not having a disclaimer. Hell I lost about 83,000 words to not having a disclaimer
People used to have lots of fun with the disclaimers too. I once had too much fun with it… Got my account locked in ff net for having too long a disclaimer XD
Christ, I’ve only been reading fic for about four years and I remember this being a Mandatory Thing. Times change, I guess.
(With my deepest apologies to Shakespeare and Dr. Seuss)
Can I kill my Uncle Claude? Yes, I can, I can, by God! I will kill my Uncle Claude!
Should I kill him in the house? Should I kill him while he’s soused? I could kill him here or there I could kill him anywhere Would I, could I, while he prays? Kill him! Kill him! Wherefore stay? I would not, could not, while he prays!
Not in the house, not when he’s soused, Not with his sister, now his spouse! Not while he prays, not while he feasts, O, incestuous, adulterate beast! I do not like my Uncle Claude, I do not like that bloody bawd!
Say! In the dark? Here in the dark! Would I, could I, in the dark?
Should I kill him in his bed? Should I there strike off his head? Kill him with his nightcap on? Kill him when the churchyards yawn? Should I kill him where he lies? I will kill him, by and by! I do not like my Uncle Claude, I’ll kill him, i’ th’ name of God!
The play! The play! The play’s the thing! The thing wherein I’ll catch the king! No more ‘to be or not to be,’ I will kill him, you will see!
Kill him while he wears his crown Kill him while his guard is down
Kill him with some poisoned wine Kill him with this sword of mine
O, is the point envenomed, too? I’m dead–Horatio, adieu! But tell them, tell them, more or less, Who it was that made this mess!
I did not like my Uncle Claude, I killed him in the name of God! Good friend, report my cause aright– And now, goodnight goodnight goodnight!
