eamo2747-deactivated20140924 asked: I'm confused about what Beethoven was doing in the black composers post. He was German.

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By golly gee! I keep forgetting that Black people didn’t exist until the Fresh Prince of Bel Air came on television! Or that Black people existed in anywhere else than Africa even with slavery going on :) My apologies.

Anyway, here’s proof that Beethoven was Black:

“… Said directly, Beethoven was a black man. Specifically, his mother was a Moor, that group of Muslim Northern Africans who conquered parts of Europe—making Spain their capital—for some 800 years.

In order to make such a substantial statement, presentation of verifiable evidence is compulsory. Let’s start with what some of Beethoven’s contemporaries and biographers say about his brown complexion:

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(Louis Letronne, Beethoven, 1814, pencil drawing.)

"Frederick Hertz, German anthropologist, used these terms to describe him: ‘Negroid traits, dark skin, flat, thick nose.’

Emil Ludwig, in his book ‘Beethoven,’ says: ‘His face reveals no trace of the German. He was so dark that people dubbed him Spagnol [dark-skinned].’

Fanny Giannatasio del Rio, in her book ‘An Unrequited Love: An Episode in the Life of Beethoven,’ wrote ‘His somewhat flat broad nose and rather wide mouth, his small piercing eyes and swarthy [dark] complexion, pockmarked into the bargain, gave him a strong resemblance to a mulatto.’

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Beethoven’s death mask: profile and full face

C. Czerny stated, ‘His beard—he had not shaved for several days—made the lower part of his already brown face still darker.’

Following are one word descriptions of Beethoven from various writers: Grillparzer, ‘dark’; Bettina von Armin, ‘brown’; Schindler, ‘red and brown’; Rellstab, ‘brownish’; Gelinek, ‘short, dark.’

In Alexander Thayer’s Life of Beethoven, vol.1, p. 134,  the author states, “there is none of that obscurity which exalts one to write history as he would have it and not as it really was. The facts are too patent.” On this same page, he states that the German composer Franz Josef Haydn was referred to as a “Moor” by Prince Esterhazy, and Beethoven had “even more of the Moor in his looks.’ On p. 72, a Beethoven contemporary, Gottfried Fischer, describes him as round-nosed and of dark complexion. Also, he was called ‘der Spagnol’ (the Spaniard).

Other “patent” sources, of which there are many, include, but are not limited to, Beethoven by Maynard Solomon, p.78. He is described as having “thick, bristly coal-black hair” (in today’s parlance, we proudly call it ‘kinky’) and a ‘ruddy-complexioned face.’ In   Beethoven:  His Life and Times by Artes Orga, p.72, Beethoven’s pupil, Carl Czerny of the ‘School of Velocity’ fame, recalls that Beethoven’s ‘coal-black hair, cut a la Titus, stood up around his head [sounds almost like an Afro].  His black beard…darkened the lower part of his dark-complexioned face.’

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Engraving by Blasius Hofel, Beethoven, 1814, color facsimile of engraving after a pencil drawing by Louis Letronne. This engraving was regarded in Beethoven’s circle as particularly lifelike. Beethoven himself thought highly of it, and gave several copies to his friends.

Beethoven, the Black Spaniard

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They whitewashed BEETHOVEN?  O_O

Thank you, history/fact-checking Tumblr.

I now feel the need to go burn every white-skinned image of Beethoven I can find.

beethoven was totally black! how do people not know this?

jk because erasure

I have been playing Beethoven’s music for 10+ years now and had absolutely no idea he was black.
My life has been a lie.

OH MY GOD HOLY SHIT.

I HAVE A BACHELOR DEGREE IN MUSIC, MY MAJOR WAS “MUSIC HISTORY, THEORY, AND LITERATURE”

I TOOK MULTIPLE CLASSES SPECIFICALLY IN BEETHOVEN’S STRING QUARTETS AND MY SCHOOL HAD AN INTERNATIONAL BEETHOVEN SYMPOSIUM WHERE THERE WERE PAPERS ON THINGS LIKE THE KIND OF FUCKING PAAAAAAPER HE DID HIS MANUSCRIPTS ON, IN DIFFERENT CITIES, TO SEE WHERE AND WHEN HE WROTE SPECIFIC SNIPPETS OF MUSIC.

NEVER IN MY EDUCATION OR READINGS DID I EITHER

A) NOTICE THIS

B) WAS SPECIFICALLY TOLD THIS.

I think there’s a combination of systemic racism in this, and my own internalized racism. I have, in fact, read Maynard Solomon’s biography and didn’t pick up on this. I have read the Czerny sources as well. My Beethoven teacher (Bill Kinderman) is one of the top Beethoven scholars in the world, and I don’t remember hearing any of this from him.

I even did a semester of graduate work in musicology, specifically focusing on the Beethoven string quartets (I really fucking love those things) and we never spoke about this.

I cannot say I am in any way surprised at this. I am embarrassed, angry, and upset that this was erased from my DECADES of music education.

Which doesn’t surprise me at all, because classical music is very specifically in our culture for white people, especially men, especially upper class white men.

Oof, this one is going to take a while to fully fucking digest, I am in angry tears.

Holy shit. One of the greatest musical minds of all time and he got whitewashed.

The truth needs to be spread.

Johnny Carson voice: “I did not know that.”

This isn’t the first time that I’ve read on tumblr that Beethoven was black, but I feel compelled to reblog it now because casually scrolling past evidence of erasure and noting it is not enough. I’d love to see a documentary about this.

I am actually crying.

Beethoven was a part of my life growing up, and I cannot believe I never knew this…

holy shit, I never knew this and I honestly feel really betrayed

“I’m confused about what Beethoven was doing in the black composers post. He was German.”

I am confused about how part A has anything to do with Part B. Like. No black people existed in Germany?

IDEK.

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this is in my history book about prohibition in the 1920s and i’m laughing so hard oh my gooooood

Never change, New Orleans.

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“ asphodelon:
“ by special request of ourlolitadaydreams, a larger version of that hold my flower doodle
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BUt yall don’t understand how perfect this is.
Cause, it’s generally agreed: Hades was a...

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by special request of ourlolitadaydreams, a larger version of that hold my flower doodle

BUt yall don’t understand how perfect this is.

Cause, it’s generally agreed: Hades was a pretty chill dude. He was rich and powerful and grim and kind of a moody manic sometimes, but generally, as long as you stayed on your side of the styx and didn’t much up with him he was content to leave you be. And even if you come crashing down into his realm being a jackass, he was still fair and just, if annoyed. (The story where Heracles bails out one of the guys he had punished for being rude psycho jackasses basically amounts to “leave the lead jackass to rot, but if it means that much take the other brats”)

He’s a very Lawful Neutral figure: The guy behind the desk of the great tax collector in the ancient world. The Greeks had a healthy respect and fear for him, but as long as you followed the rules and paid the ferry man there wasn’t anything to fear- and really he wasn’t the one responsible for the system…Just the guy enforcing it.

But Persephone.

Persephone.

There was someone you didn’t not want to piss off. There is a reason Hades name is just “The Rich One” and her’s is “The Iron Queen”. She took her job as queen of the underworld very very seriously and she had a mean streak a mile wide. When Orpheus came down to fetch his wife Hades was all for letting them go he was so moved by the man’s music, but Persephone is the one that set the trial knowing that Orpheus couldn’t resist looking- in some versions of the myth after he’s ripped apart by nymphs she seats him in their court to be their musician and it’s implied that was her plan all along- to not only keep one soul but to gain another- capable of great music to please her husband. When the whole thing with Adonis went down, she threatened the stability of all the world to tip the scales in her favor. According to Homer when men wanted to call curses down on the souls of the departed they invoked her name.

The Greeks where terrified of her. Aside from her priests no one was allowed to speak her name legally (with Hades and the others it was just social tabbo) for fear of drawing her attention. To them- she was the Goddess of Life AND Death, Summer and Winter. She command power over men’s lives and their deaths. You did not mess with her.

In all likely hood this is exactly how it would go down- Hades holding her flower while she meeted out the divine hellish punishment on the offenders.

In the Odyssey, when Odysseus is visiting the underworld, the thing that makes them finally nervous enough to get back up to the surface was the prospect of Persephone noticing them. They are shaking in their little Greek booties.

Which is why it pISSES ME OFF that the Romans dismissed her as “the one minor spring goddess, abducted by and married to Pluto…”

She was fucking badass.

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do you think like 600 years ago book nerds got real mad when the printing press was invented because filthy casuals could get books without having to copy them out themselves

Actually yes they did

and there were certain ancient Greeks who were angry when writing was invented, because it meant that literature was more accessible to the filthy casual masses

true shit, people

People never change do they

we got taller

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HURRY UP WITH MY DAMN CROISSANTS: a mix for the alexander the great you wished you’d studied. [ L I S T E N ]

                     ‘SUCK MY DICK.’ - alexander iii of macedon, circa 331 b.c.

                                                       356 - 338 b.c.

I.   the creepiest ten year old in history
                   WHEN I GROW UP - the pussycat dolls

II.   the mother of all oedipus complexes
                   NO ANGELS - bastille ft ella

III.   subtlety didn’t exist in ancient greece
                   NO HOMO - the lonely island

IV.   please calm down
                   HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW - the heavy

V.   teenage tantrum in the form of potential civil war
                   THREW IT ON THE GROUND - the lonely island

VI.  classical edition backstreet boys
                   CLIQUE - kanye west ft. jay z

VII.   belated sexual awakening
                   I KISSED A BOY (COVER) - cobra starship

VIII.  oops i killed my dad
                   MOVE BITCH (HEDEGAARD REMIX) - ludacris
                                     

                                                       
                                                       336 - 330 b.c.

IX.   please try to act like you’re sorry your dad’s dead
                   SURVIVOR - beyonce

X.   this is imperialism, and it’s not cool
                   PRIMADONNA - marina and the diamonds
                   
XI.  literally no one else thinks this is a good idea
                   I’M ON A BOAT - the lonely island
                   
XII.  seriously, calm down
                   TURN DOWN FOR WHAT - dj snake & lil’ jon
                   
XIII. this is going to catastrophically affect the known world
                   I CAN DO ANYTHING - 3oh!3
                   
XIV.  you culturally appropriative asshole
                   PRETTY FLY FOR A WHITE GUY (COVER) - vitamin string quartet 

                                                       
                                                       329 - 323 b.c.

XV.  cutting off the heads of existing friends won’t make you new friends
                   HEADS WILL ROLL - yeah yeah yeahs

XVI.  seriously, CHILL
                   I AM A GOD - kanye west

XVII.  you’re a fucking embarrassment
                   BITCH - the plasticines 

XVIII.  lying on a corpse crying for three days 
                   I’M NOT CRYING - flight of the concords

XVIV.  the drinking problem that changed the course of history
                   A LITTLE PARTY NEVER KILLED NOBODY - fergie

XX.  this went about as well as could be expected
                   DIE YOUNG - ke$ha

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